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DOJ says encrypted Signal messages used to charge Oath Keepers leader

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DOJ says encrypted Signal messages used to charge Oath Keepers leader


@madars 3 hours

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Source document: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1462481/downl...

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@neom 30 minutes

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This lawyer explains this whole thing, and touches on a the signal messages a little, I interpret what he said as he thinks someone was in the group from the government, but it's not totally clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiCAFV_XBGc

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@nsxwolf 3 hours

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I would assume the most likely explanation is an informant was included in the Signal conversations and forwarded the contents along. I wonder if we will get an official statement from Signal.

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@Threeve303 2 hours

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The only technical solution, not that I have any first hand knowledge of this, would be a remote desktop server running in the secure enclave. Basically everything you do on your phone can be viewed remotely by law enforcement and it seems they only need a warrant if they want to try to use it against you in court. 60 frame per second updates on most iPhone screens, means when connected, it takes 1 frame out of 60, combines each of the 59 frames and sends those over to the secure enclave kernel. Basically just like remote desktop operates. There are other debugging features that can be enabled for the virtual keyboards and so on that can leak information.

Sure, you have end to end encryption but that's hardly all of the threat vector.

People need to accept that it's far more than metadata, we have no privacy, and in a way we are all locked inside of these virtual jails that keep people locked in like drug addicts.

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