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Humble subscription service is dumping Mac, Linux access in 18 days

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Humble subscription service is dumping Mac, Linux access in 18 days


@cestith 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Humble's doing everything it can lately to make Itch more attractive.

https://itch.io/

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@rookderby 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

I had a spreadsheet of the bundles I grabbed back when this was about donating to charities and getting DRM-free software. (I think I've bought at least the first 10 bundles.) The further HB moved from those two goals, the more I lost interest. I even tried the subscription for a while, but it felt like the focus has changed to generating revenue for profit and not to raising funds for charity or giving users DRM-free software. At this point, it is more efficient to donate to a charity directly.

[Edit: I guess it was always more efficient to donate to a charity directly, I meant now it is more efficient donate 95% to a charity and take the 5% or whatever to buy a DRM-free game and download it without a client at GOG, Itch, or other site.]

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@chris_wot 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Well, it was nice knowing you Humble.

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@azalemeth 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

One other thing kindly taken from the Ars comments [1] and expanded upon a bit: if anyone else would like to bulk-export their steam keys from this, go to https://www.humblebundle.com/home/keys and open the developer console and paste in:

    $('.keyfield-value').toArray().forEach((x) => x.click())

After redeeming the keys you can use the following to get an array of them:

    var myKeys = $('.unredeemed-keys-table tr').toArray().slice(1).map((tr) => [tr.getElementsByTagName('h4')[0].innerHTML, tr.getElementsByClassName('keyfield-value')[0].innerHTML])
    var stringMe = ''; myKeys.forEach((element) => { stringMe=stringMe+(element[1])+","}); console.log(stringMe)
Once you've got that, this greasemonkey script might be of interest to bulk-activate them [2]

[1] https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/01/humble-subscription-s...

[2] https://github.com/Lutymane/Steam-Scripts/raw/master/Batch-K...

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@creativemonkeys 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Since 2013, I've spent $1287.38 on bundles in Humble Bundle. This change doesn't seem to affect people like me, how primarily buy bundles, but my guard is up now.

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@Naga 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

It seems a bit like an unforced error to be dumping Linux a few months before Steam's new Linux-based Steam Link is released.

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@pjmlp 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Another one joins Loki Software.

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@styeco 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

I've canceled my Humble Monthly a while ago. It's just another online game store at this point, there's nothing of the original spirit left. The amount they give to charity is tiny these days, and there haven't been any games I'm interested in in a long time. I'll buy at GOG tyvm.

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@yreg 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Any idea what's the reason? I haven't been following Humble, but a long time ago they were a champion of non-windows gaming. Sad to see them leaving the battlefield.

Is it because they don't want to maintain a cross-platform launcher app?

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@tzs 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

OT: another site where you have until January 31, 2022 to download your purchases is Pottermore. They gave a lot more notice--the shutdown was announced in 2019.

I somehow missed that, but they sent an email at the start of this year reminding users of it. Go to https://bookshelf.pottermore.com/ and enter your email. They will mail you a link to your bookshelf.

Follow that link and you'll find all your books with download links to download DRM-free ePubs.

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@zibzab 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

What is going on with this company?

First it was the Android madness (non-working pre-release versions were sold and never updated).

Then they changed slider defaults so very little money was sent to charities.

Then they started selling game assets instead of games.

Then they sued Steam.

And now this...

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@AltruisticGapHN 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Going Windows only for games nowadays seem short sighted, given the rise of SteamOS, incoming SteamDeck and the rumored Steam Console,

Basically with increased Proton compatibility and ease of use from SteamOS... installing Linux instead of Windows sounds like a viable option for gaming.

I don't even like Linux all that much myself, and am considering at least trying Steam OS on my PC once I get my SteamDeck.

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@sersi 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Ever since they've been bought out by IGN, humble's strategy has been baffling.

They switched from Monthly to Choice but quickly had issues because they had to provide a lot more games (reducing the quality of each individual games), the price for new subscribers (20 usd) was too high and existing users who were grandfathered could easily skip a month (I'm pretty sure they still made money on those who forgot to skip a month).

Now, they're returning to a similar model as the Monthly, but long time subscribers end up paying more than new subscribers (due to currency exchange fees). They should have fixed the amount to something like 14 usd so that long time subscribers would stay to keep their discounted price.

And, to prevent skipping a month, they now reset the 20% discount on the humble store to 10% every time a month has been skipped and only increase it back to 20% after 12 consecutive unskipped months. It could be a good strategy if not for the fact that the humble store is not cheap, the 20% discount barely made it competitive with other online game stores. So, instead of incentivising people from not pausing months, they're just incentivising people to not buy from their store.

And then finally, I have no idea for the reasoning behind locking the games behind a launcher. Why couldn't they keep the DRM free games for platforms not covered by the launcher?

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@RcouF1uZ4gsC 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

> Those subscribers have until January 31 to use the existing website interface to download DRM-free copies of any games' Mac or Linux versions.

This part makes the above seem pretty reasonable. They are making a business decision on which platforms to support or not, however, because the games are DRM-free, current Max and Linux subscribers can just download the games and cancel their subscription.

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@Ekaros 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Overall the last year+ has been mess for Humble Choice what they call their subscription service. Pricing has been full of coupons, introductionary offers and so on. It is not really great confidence if you first offer year for reasonable discount that is 8-9$ a month. And then just after that give people 3 months at 6$ and repeat this. Also users who usually pause often seem to get 2-4$ off from the price... And in the end last month they in the end sold to some people the bundle for 2$...

This really does not instil any type of loyalty... At least this change somewhat cleans up all that. But still it has been a mess.

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@micromacrofoot 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

What a strange saga.

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@xwdv 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

This will be the end of Humble for me.

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@marcodiego 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Humble is not be a good word to describe a service which behaves like this.

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@ryukafalz 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Well that sucks. Guess I'll be looking into how to bulk download my library this month, and no point in keeping my subscription after this if it no longer supports my platform.

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@sofixa 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

When people complain about Electron and similar cross-platform solutions, this is the alternative. I'll take a bad Electron app eating my RAM over nothing any day :)

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@stubish 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

This seems to be the Trove only, which is a collection of games available to subscribers. Hopefully all the non-trove titles people have purchased over the years won't be disappearing (if they are, they should probably tell the purchasers!)

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@JohnHaugeland 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

I haven't shopped with them since they started sending extreme adult content to mailing lists they knew contained 13 year olds

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@dreamling 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

I didn't see the links in here, and couldn't easily find it on the site, but did find the link in my email:

Newsletter: https://blog.humblebundle.com/2022/01/11/humble-choice-is-le...

Link to their FAQ on the change:

https://support.humblebundle.com/hc/en-us/articles/441112762...

Which games do I get to keep forever?

https://support.humblebundle.com/hc/en-us/articles/441112762...

"All Humble Choice members receive a selection of hand-picked games redeemable via a key for select platforms, when available (Steam, Epic, Origin, GOG, etc.). You can find these games at the Humble Choice Hub after unlocking the current month of Choice. Games in the Humble app for Windows PC, including the Humble Games Collection, are only available to active Humble Choice members. New Humble Choice games are available on the first Tuesday of every month."

Which is good, because I have, ~20 pages of keys to redeem since I've been a long time humblebundler and usually only grabbed things as I was playing. I was worried I'd have to redeem them all before Feb, which doesn't sound like the case. So, business as usual for me? though it might be good to get most things I want redeemed over to steam fwiw.

It does sound (from reading this thread) that Linux/Mac users who want their DRM free d/ls will need to grab them before the switchover.

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@btdmaster 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Just sent a request for account deletion (https://dsar.humblebundle.com/). Itch.io is much better when it comes to Linux DRM-free games.

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@anothernewdude 6 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

I'm just learning now that they had a launcher.

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@Shadonototra 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

what a stupid move..

the only way to go is to boycott

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@Aeolun 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

On humble, I don’t really care. It all goes to steam keys anyway. DRM free has never really been their thing.

If I want something truly DRM free I go to gog.com.

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@bashy 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

Been a while since I've heard about them. Not sure if I redeemed all of these so they may still work https://www.humblebundle.com/downloads?key=b227qZU5huqV

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@account-5 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

They just lost a subscriber. It really does bring the fact you can't trust an online service is going to provide anything in the way of consistency.

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@999900000999 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

End of an era...

I'll have to see what happens though. The Humble Bundle goes out and finds some of the most unique experiences imo.

Assuming they still hand out Steam keys, I'll still be a customer. The day I can only download games via another launcher, I'm done.

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@sandworm101 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

"Own & play your games forever" = BS.

"Humble Bundle believes that accessibility is an ongoing effort, and we continually improve our web sites, services, and products in order to provide an optimal experience for all of our users and subscribers."

Unless they own a Mac.

"Award-winning indies, Humble Originals & classics all at your fingertips. Download from our 70+ DRM-free game library. New titles added every month!"

DRM-free? But I have to run your launcher software? If I quacks like a duck it is DRM.

"Your exclusive and sole remedy with respect to any Product that is not downloadable or able to be activated within a reasonable period will be either replacement of such Product, store credit or refund, as determined by Humble Bundle in its sole discretion."

Ok. Per your terms of service statement. I will be wanting all my money back the moment I can no longer download my purchased software.

"Accordingly, in the event that Humble Bundle changes any part of the Service or discontinues the Service, which Humble Bundle may do at its election, you acknowledge that you may no longer be able to use Products to the same extent as prior to such change or discontinuation, and that Humble Bundle shall have no liability to you in such case."

Ok. Goodbye. You will no longer get any money from me. I'm very sure I can get the same games elsewhere.

https://www.humblebundle.com/ https://www.humblebundle.com/accessibility https://www.humblebundle.com/subscription https://www.humblebundle.com/terms

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@thrower123 7 days

Replying to @_hao 🎙

I've never used their subscription service or their game store, but I did buy many bundles over the years. However, they made a UI change in the last year or so to remove the button that would register that you wanted to be reminded by email shortly before the bundle expires. Removing that button has reduced the amount of money I spend on HumbleBundles enormously.

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