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If I remember correctly, if you harvest for fibers, that's before it goes into seed.

"I feel like the move to larger clinics (at least in the US) over old school one physician offices has standardized the process and made it more bureaucratic."

The cause and effect might be backwards here. Many physicians retired or consolidated as regulations increased, and ghe cost of complying with the regulations increased. For example, we saw a lot of this when digitization of files became mandatory.

It seems much of medicine today is about following the established protocols so you don't get sued. Reading checklists off the screen fits this well.

Many hot peppers actually have a good bit of sugar in them. I was making some Tabasco sauce I'm the fall and the bees were very interested in it. I also grew some cayenne peppers that didn't have any heat and they were quite sweet.

Surprisingly, white sugar is not.

Because of lobbying.

My experience is that the system is rife with incompetence and convenient inconsistencies.

"the time that many school districts started their high schoolers at was of negative consequence to the children."

That hasn't been proven yet. I guess we'll see with the next year's test scores compared to this year. I don't expect much to change test-wise. I do expect extracurricular partipation will drop.

"Are you saying that you'd have no objections if the local school district chose to start high school at a later time? "

Yes, I would be fine with districts starting later if the district was the one deciding it based on parental representation. At least then we could have a local discussion and do what works best for us.

The laws and case law say otherwise.

One could argue that being at school at 8am is a valuable skill they should since most jobs require that (or earlier) start time.

Because what works for one district might not work for another based on the demographics and culture of the location.

Their voice at the state level is highly diluted by non-interested parties. Voting for school board members tends to be more focused and doesn't have as many people voting based on non-school issues like you would for a general representative.

If this is such a contentious issue, then why not allow the parents in each district to decide? That's really what I'm getting at - the state is making this decision for everyone by usurping the parents representation at the district level.

This is a bit anti-DEI. Special needs and kids with behavioral issues do need that. Now they would need it twice a day.

I agree. We need to change the laws, case law, and societal expectations to stop threatening parents over lack of supervision.

I'm not just talking about the getting to school part. I'm also talking about setting the time part via parents at the board meetings.

If the kids are really so sleep deprived that we need a law about it, then it's likely some will sleep past their alarms.

Dictating diet by limiting options doesn't sound like a great plan to me.

You know what else is a non-problem? The current start times.

They don't need to be the same kid.

After school has after school activities. It also typically means they don't need to cook if the parents are home for dinner.

"which is supposed to serve its demographic broadly."

Which the current times do.

"The rule being set by the state or by the local school district is hardly of consequence."

This is totally untrue. At the district level, parents have more say in creating the rules that work for them (their local demographic!).

"You're okay with painting broad strokes about parents' lives but then make an argument about individual students."

Either one is broad. I'm pointing out that the very argument you make can be used against the position you're defending.

Parents get forced into it due to the laws and societal expectations (juries/civil cases). Guess who can go to jail if their teenage kid doesn't go to school? Fix that law, and then we can start talking about these.

This sounds like a vast over simplification and plain scapegoating. All the school start time surveys I've seen typically have an even split up to moderately favoring normal start times. Half the school is not on the football team.